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Post by John Liberty on Aug 28, 2013 21:59:46 GMT
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Post by ProfessorKat on Aug 28, 2013 22:29:26 GMT
I think that explains it perfectly!
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Post by mhcg on Aug 29, 2013 1:12:33 GMT
Everything in this article was spot on! Something's I didn't even know about and some stuff i knew I would try and tell some people but their to thick skulled to listen. Thank you for sharing this!
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Post by AmazingDomo on Aug 29, 2013 17:29:07 GMT
Interesting article, but would you really rather have the freedom to own a gun, or be dead because some maniac killed you?
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Post by rserling on Aug 29, 2013 18:29:01 GMT
Interesting article, but would you really rather have the freedom to own a gun, or be dead because some maniac killed you? I would rather a good citizen, or myself, have the opportunity to protect me or others from said maniac with a weapon of their own.
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Post by AmazingDomo on Aug 29, 2013 18:39:22 GMT
Interesting article, but would you really rather have the freedom to own a gun, or be dead because some maniac killed you? I would rather a good citizen, or myself, have the opportunity to protect me or others from said maniac with a weapon of their own.There wouldn't be any maniacs with guns, without guns. Simple logic bud.
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Post by ProfessorKat on Aug 29, 2013 18:42:08 GMT
I would rather a good citizen, or myself, have the opportunity to protect me or others from said maniac with a weapon of their own. There wouldn't be any maniacs with guns, without guns. Simple logic bud.So what would you propose? Waving your magic liberal wand and making all the guns in the world disappear?
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Post by rserling on Aug 29, 2013 18:42:46 GMT
I would rather a good citizen, or myself, have the opportunity to protect me or others from said maniac with a weapon of their own. There wouldn't be any maniacs with guns, without guns. Simple logic bud. How do you keep weapons from people who do not obey the law?
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Post by AmazingDomo on Aug 29, 2013 18:47:40 GMT
There wouldn't be any maniacs with guns, without guns. Simple logic bud.
How do you keep weapons from people who do not obey the law? [/i]If they are not following laws they will be locked up. Just because there are people who will not abide by the law, does not mean that we should not place laws. Laws will always be broke, until the end of time I should presume. If we do not pass vital laws just because some people may break it, than we are just being silly at that point.
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Post by John Liberty on Aug 29, 2013 19:12:13 GMT
There's a difference between gun laws and ordinary laws. Gun laws take guns away from law abiding citizens as well and leave them with no way to defend themselves. All that will happen with gun laws is criminals and cops will be the only ones with guns. The common man will be left undefended from both.
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Post by rserling on Aug 29, 2013 19:13:44 GMT
The difference is that this unconstitutional law you are suggesting puts me at a distinct disadvantage as a law-abiding citizen. The law is nowhere near as effective at preventing violence as citizens are. Think like a criminal. Are you going to be more deterred by law enforcement, which will take minutes to respond, or the possibility that anyone in the vicinity could be carrying a firearm and could mow you down in an instant? On the other hand, there are just plain suicidal maniacs who don't care about the threat of law enforcement. Putting people in prison, or just letting them off themselves, after killing dozens of people, is not real justice. Real justice gives law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves and fight back. And speaking of laws, what good are laws that the government itself is not obliged to follow? If only the authority is armed, I feel anything but safe.
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Post by AmazingDomo on Aug 29, 2013 22:12:49 GMT
The difference is that this unconstitutional law you are suggesting puts me at a distinct disadvantage as a law-abiding citizen. The law is nowhere near as effective at preventing violence as citizens are. Think like a criminal. Are you going to be more deterred by law enforcement, which will take minutes to respond, or the possibility that anyone in the vicinity could be carrying a firearm and could mow you down in an instant? On the other hand, there are just plain suicidal maniacs who don't care about the threat of law enforcement. Putting people in prison, or just letting them off themselves, after killing dozens of people, is not real justice. Real justice gives law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves and fight back. And speaking of laws, what good are laws that the government itself is not obliged to follow? If only the authority is armed, I feel anything but safe. ------------- You don't feel safe when the police is armed? LOL. I personally think the police should be well armed to deal with the high crime rate we have!
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Post by DarkShadow on Sept 3, 2013 3:43:58 GMT
The difference is that this unconstitutional law you are suggesting puts me at a distinct disadvantage as a law-abiding citizen. The law is nowhere near as effective at preventing violence as citizens are. Think like a criminal. Are you going to be more deterred by law enforcement, which will take minutes to respond, or the possibility that anyone in the vicinity could be carrying a firearm and could mow you down in an instant? On the other hand, there are just plain suicidal maniacs who don't care about the threat of law enforcement. Putting people in prison, or just letting them off themselves, after killing dozens of people, is not real justice. Real justice gives law-abiding citizens the ability to protect themselves and fight back. And speaking of laws, what good are laws that the government itself is not obliged to follow? If only the authority is armed, I feel anything but safe. ------------- You don't feel safe when the police is armed? LOL. I personally think the police should be well armed to deal with the high crime rate we have! How long does it take for the police to arrive at a crime scene? By the time they arrive there could be a high body count. Most felons say that they would not attack someone they thought was armed. -DarkShadow
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Post by AmazingDomo on Sept 3, 2013 15:14:16 GMT
------------- You don't feel safe when the police is armed? LOL. I personally think the police should be well armed to deal with the high crime rate we have! How long does it take for the police to arrive at a crime scene? By the time they arrive there could be a high body count. Most felons say that they would not attack someone they thought was armed. -DarkShadow Yeah, but if we made an effort to make sure criminals didn't get guns...there wouldn't be a body count. Simple logic.
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Post by DarkShadow on Sept 3, 2013 15:38:49 GMT
How long does it take for the police to arrive at a crime scene? By the time they arrive there could be a high body count. Most felons say that they would not attack someone they thought was armed. -DarkShadow Yeah, but if we made an effort to make sure criminals didn't get guns...there wouldn't be a body count. Simple logic. How are you going to keep criminals from getting guns? That is where your logic fails.
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