Welfare: Keep, Reform or End?

[John Liberty]

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lot easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

[ProfessorKat]

Aug 30, 2013 3:41:02 GMT John Liberty said:

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lot easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

I agree with everything you said said.

[rserling]

Aug 30, 2013 11:55:00 GMT ProfessorKat said:

Aug 30, 2013 3:41:02 GMT John Liberty said:

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lot easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

I agree with everything you said said.

Agreed. I just can't figure out how the additional kids are going to eat.

[John Liberty]

Aug 30, 2013 18:53:57 GMT rserling said:

Aug 30, 2013 11:55:00 GMT ProfessorKat said:

I agree with everything you said said.

Agreed. I just can't figure out how the additional kids are going to eat.

If they can't take care of the additional kids they had while on welfare, that's called not properly preparing for having a child and is a minor form of child neglect. Thus parents are no longer responsible enough to take care of the children, and they need to be taken to foster homes.

[rserling]

Aug 30, 2013 19:27:28 GMT John Liberty said:

Aug 30, 2013 18:53:57 GMT rserling said:

Agreed. I just can't figure out how the additional kids are going to eat.

If they can't take care of the additional kids they had while on welfare, that's called not properly preparing for having a child and is a minor form of child neglect. Thus parents are no longer responsible enough to take care of the children, and they need to be taken to foster homes.

Good point.

[Gipper]

Aug 30, 2013 3:41:02 GMT John Liberty said:

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lot easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

It needs severe reform. Any body can walk into a welfare office and walk out with food stamps. That's not right, especially considering some of that money comes out of MY paycheck that I worked my ass off to get. It is not my job to pay for lazy people to sit around and do nothing all day because "their leg is sprained" or some asinine excuse like that. 

[Galt'sGirl]

Aug 30, 2013 3:41:02 GMT John Liberty said:

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lot easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

I agree. People are taking advantage of a system originally intended to help people. If less people are able too take advantage of the system, it's not an awful system. There are people out there that genuinely need help, and I have no problem with them getting a little bit of support. But currently more people are on welfare or disabilities than are actually working.  

[prodebater]

Aug 30, 2013 3:41:02 GMT John Liberty said:

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lot easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

Welfare is a great thing! The rich should be required to help the needy. There are so many people in need here in America, and you all can sit around and say we shouldn't help them? This is discusting. People on welfare should be allowed to choose what foods they buy... its terrible you would want to put limitations on that. American citizens deserve to live happy lives whether they are on welfare or not.

[John Liberty]

Sept 21, 2013 3:45:44 GMT prodebater said:

Aug 30, 2013 3:41:02 GMT John Liberty said:

Should we keep welfare the way it is, reform it or end it?

I say we severely reform it. I'm all for helping people out...when they NEED it.

Possible reformations to the system.

1.Make phasing from welfare to job a lotus easier.One of the problems people have is that once they even start doing even a little bit of work they are immediately cut off.

2.Foodstamps should be similar to the wic voucher program.In the wic voucher program the vouchers tell you what you can get and when you can get it.

3.A nutritionist should determine what each family needs and those vouchers reflect that.

4.A state issued ID or driver's license should be required to use WIC,foodstamps or any other tax payer funded assistance.

5.Instead of giving cash to the recipient for rent and utilities, the rent and utility payments will be wired to land lord's account and utility companies.

6.Welfare recipients will either be issued bus passes in which they must show a state issued ID or driver's license or if they drive a car they will be issued a gas card which they must show a state issued driver's license and only will be issued enough gas to go to school,work,grocery store and or pick up kids from school.

7.Additional welfare/foodstamps will not be granted for any additional kids the recipient has while on welfare/foodstamps.

8.Able bodied people will either work,or to trade school in order to get welfare/foodstamps or they will be on work details to clean up trash, or mow lawns on public property until they get a job.

9.Foodstamps will not pay for any name brand foods,luxury foods(sushi, lobster, expensive cuts of meat, or any other luxury foods) energy drinks, sugary drinks, cookies, cakes, candies, or any other junk food.

Welfare is a great thing! The rich should be required to help the needy. There are so many people in need here in America, and you all can sit around and say we shouldn't help them? This is discusting. People on welfare should be allowed to choose what foods they buy... its terrible you would want to put limitations on that. American citizens deserve to live happy lives whether they are on welfare or not.

Why should other people be required to pay for their "happiness"